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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

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  2. scandals

  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  Life is to short 2

  Richard like I said on the thread by BoC you really need to call the law firm.

  You are way to obsessed about this and frustrated, for your own sanity I beg you to call the law firm.

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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Life is to short 2

  Thank you Jaun for your encouraging word's.

  And as I was working this afternoon. I thought that if Richard is so sure that this is such a unattainable battle why is he wasting his time with us on this thread, since he has such vast knowledge and does not want the victims to go through even more pain. THAN CALL THE LAW FIRM! Call them tell them all the worries he has spent the time he has put into this thread. He clearly knows more than that law firm does that his posts indicate, so Richard put your money where your mouth is and call them, stop wasting your time with us who are so stupid that some call this a slam dunk. Since this is so important for you to put a stop to what you clearly are feeling is insanity by posting over and over and over how this is such a long shot that probably will never have a chance. Call them and tell them how you know so much more than they do and how this is just not going to ever work.

  For thoes who might take me seriously, I am just frustrated that Richard is trying to discourage everyone.

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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Again Richard what is your true point? I think anyone with an ounce of brain's knows this is not going to be easy. It's giving to be Hell. Most people really do get that l, really Richard.

  The point is someone is at LEAST TRYING!

  Most people who have been abused are so timid and afraid, most do not have the courage to stand up for anything much less their abouser's. You keep coming on this thread saying how hard this is going to be it's going to be an uphill battle, it won't be easy, the Watchtower is not going to roll over and die.

  I get that I really and honestly do get that it is going to be pure hell. But to keep hammering it over and over and over and over the way you have on this thread you are going to scare them from even trying.

  If that's what you are hoping to accomplish you've done a great job.

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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  So your point Richard is that they should just give up? Wave the white flag?

  I really try hard notto get into debates with poster's like you as it is just hitting my head against a brick wall. These convinced against their will are of the same opinion still. Nothing is ever going to convince you that anyone can change or get through to the GB to change their disregard for children by allowing sex offender's free range in the KH'S, I get that. Maybe your right. Maybe everyonewho has ever suffered injustices should just give up as the deck's stacked against them. Your right a huge amount of the law's are not to protect children and the Watchtower lawyers know the law extremely well, they know how to stop the victim cold most of the time. I get it no one should ever try to fight them as it is just a losing battle. I get your point totally.

  All I can say is thank God for one's like Erin Brockovich and so many other's who didn't hold your fatalistic view.

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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  I just cannot see a law firm running ad's like this without getting their ducks in a roll. Making sure they have sure they have a nail tight case. These lawyer's are not stupid, they know as soon as the ad's hit that they are going to be counter sued by Watchtower legal.

  I know some want to be expert's and know what will happen and that this is just another act of fertility as they feel this law firm will not secede.

  Maybe throwing a wet blanket on this thread, saying there is no way this will work, maybe they are right it's just stupid to hope justice will ever prevail.

  For now I just really want to believe that this law firm is not that stupid, they knew before they placed their ad's who they were going against. I just really want to believe in the long run that evil will not trump justice.

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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Has anyone called the law firm? Dees Trey Bundy know about this I wonder?

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  Some apostates are coming across as crazed psychopaths

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not sure whether or not my view on this is correct so please leave your input.

  in recent months i've been viewing youtube videos.

  again, it might just be my view but there has been an increased amount of random people grabbing a camera and doing vlogs.

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  OrphanCroww

  I was wondering that this weekend, so many on this board say that Scientology are like JW's expect on steroids. After Randy's rant this weekend I am starting to think JW's are more damaged than most believe. I have started to think they could be hurt the same if not worse than Scientology. There are just to many who lose it in very unproductive ways.

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  Some apostates are coming across as crazed psychopaths

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not sure whether or not my view on this is correct so please leave your input.

  in recent months i've been viewing youtube videos.

  again, it might just be my view but there has been an increased amount of random people grabbing a camera and doing vlogs.

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  I totally agree. My first contact was with Bill Bowen. He was so angry at the time and went on a rant against the Anderson's especially Barbara that he drove me back in the JW's for two more year's. He was so bitter that he actually scared me.

  There was also a very famous apostate in the middle of the state that I live in and again this man to me came off as totally crazy, but many including thoes on this board seemed to almost worship him.

  The way Randy Walter's went off this weekend in a attack against Barbara Anderson is again a prime example, or six screens of the watchtower, just his web sight would scare a JW back. What's with that anyway, why act that way? Jonny the ex Bethelight, seriously? It just comes off as totally crazy.

  There are so many great ex JW's, that can reason, such as Barbara Anderson, flipper. OTWO, but the one's who come rantings and swearing, yelling. They just prove the JW's right and drive hurt one's back in.

  I personally think a lot of it, is that they like the fame, the lime light, it's not that they want to help people it's that they want the spot light to shine on them, however they can do it.

  I wish we could be like Leah Remini in her speaking out against Scientology, expect for her swearing she comes across with herself together not some ranting nut case.

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  Elders getting burnt up.

  by biblexaminer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the elders in this area are getting burned out.

  i have overheard comments that demonstrate this, but in my dealings with them, i clearly see it.

  they can't keep it straight.

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  I agree with Simon, my husband really was a victim also. Our marriage, my mental health, his physical health, non of it mattered.

  I was a total enabler, I felt I was on this crazy merry-go-round and could not stop spinning long enough to think.

  What really kills me now are the JW's that try to encourage me back by saying mistakes were made and that elder's are not treated like we were now. That the GB learned that demanding so much from elders and their wives was wrong.

  Seriously! This one sister told me last month these exact word's. She trully is a sweet person who is afraid to take her blinders off as she would lose her entire family. One son an elder, son-in law MS. This religion is all she has known. It's sad.

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  Mexico branch......Now closing!!!

  by krismalone in

  1. social
  2. current

  a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.

  i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!

  this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.

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  Life is to short 2

  LeeveThePlayingFeild

  We did it when we served where the need was great. My husband was so busy in the congregation it was unreal. He worked just 4 or 5 day's a month as the ones in the hall demanded so much from him.

  Yet every time the CO came through he verbally beat my husband for not doing even more. I worked 30 hours a week plus got 90 hour'sa month in pioneering. It was totally crazy.

  All of our money went to service. We put 35,000 miles a year on our car in service. We could never do enough, give enough, be enough. It was always more, more, more.

  If they demanded it of us why would it be a stretch of the imagination to think they woukd not do it to CO's?

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